Difference between revisions of "Talk:Homology-based structure prediction (PKU)"
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* ''variety of methods to be used for tertiary structure prediction'': I know three types: ab-initio, homology modeling, threading. What else is out there? |
* ''variety of methods to be used for tertiary structure prediction'': I know three types: ab-initio, homology modeling, threading. What else is out there? |
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+ | ** [http://www.google.de/search?q=tertiary+structure+prediction+methods] mentions 4.9 mio hits so i guess there are a variety of ideas and approaches to deal with this topic. Plus [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/variety] specifies in #3 that its a number of things 3>0 and therefore a variety--[[User:Hollizeck|Hollizeck]] 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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+ | ** a-priori |
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* What is the purpose of listing the results of three different search tools and not just, for instance, HHsearch? |
* What is the purpose of listing the results of three different search tools and not just, for instance, HHsearch? |
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+ | ** isnt it surprising to you that you do not find at least a similar result when using different approaches? If i do not have a Reference to define right and wrong, how do i know which of the searchtools helps me? Plus what would you do if HHsearch has no result? And just to explain my train of thought:<br> |
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+ | why do i use an external program to search the pdb, if the pdb does provide one? But then if those results for the low sequence identity do have a bad e-Value, whyy dont i search with another tool to get a ''better'' dataset. BUT then this searchtool does not get any result for the middle identity section. Wouldn't you use a third tool to see if there is a explanation for this big difference in the results? |
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* Why do you not use common templates of different sequence identity (high, medium, low) for all three methods (Modeller, SWISS-MODEL, I-TASSER)? How will you compare the methods otherwise? |
* Why do you not use common templates of different sequence identity (high, medium, low) for all three methods (Modeller, SWISS-MODEL, I-TASSER)? How will you compare the methods otherwise? |
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* Did you compare 2phm to 1pah? They should look identical if the sequence identity is 95%. |
* Did you compare 2phm to 1pah? They should look identical if the sequence identity is 95%. |
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+ | ** isn't that kind of our job in this Task? I mean to find out if they look identical with a high identity? --[[User:Hollizeck|Hollizeck]] 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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* Figure 3: Is the blue structure actually 1pah? It looks different from figure 1 and the thread seems rather unusual. |
* Figure 3: Is the blue structure actually 1pah? It looks different from figure 1 and the thread seems rather unusual. |
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* SWISS-MODEL finds of course 1J8U:A since the sequence identity is 100% |
* SWISS-MODEL finds of course 1J8U:A since the sequence identity is 100% |
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+ | ** what is your point? |
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* There are still plenty of spelling errors. |
* There are still plenty of spelling errors. |
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* ''In the above 80% dataset we find again our structure from above.'' Would you write this in a paper? |
* ''In the above 80% dataset we find again our structure from above.'' Would you write this in a paper? |
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+ | ** i would not, but his is not a paper but a wiki where I can use links and references to make it more dynamic--[[User:Hollizeck|Hollizeck]] 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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* You might make your plots more uniform, e.g. by using the same background color. |
* You might make your plots more uniform, e.g. by using the same background color. |
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+ | ** good idea --[[User:Hollizeck|Hollizeck]] 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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==positive feedback== |
==positive feedback== |
Revision as of 23:50, 3 June 2012
This is just a place to add criticism and or positive feedback so we Jonathan and Sebastian have a possibility to improve. Please note, that we wont be able to adress all matters immediately but we will address them eventually!

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- variety of methods to be used for tertiary structure prediction: I know three types: ab-initio, homology modeling, threading. What else is out there?
- What is the purpose of listing the results of three different search tools and not just, for instance, HHsearch?
- isnt it surprising to you that you do not find at least a similar result when using different approaches? If i do not have a Reference to define right and wrong, how do i know which of the searchtools helps me? Plus what would you do if HHsearch has no result? And just to explain my train of thought:
- isnt it surprising to you that you do not find at least a similar result when using different approaches? If i do not have a Reference to define right and wrong, how do i know which of the searchtools helps me? Plus what would you do if HHsearch has no result? And just to explain my train of thought:
why do i use an external program to search the pdb, if the pdb does provide one? But then if those results for the low sequence identity do have a bad e-Value, whyy dont i search with another tool to get a better dataset. BUT then this searchtool does not get any result for the middle identity section. Wouldn't you use a third tool to see if there is a explanation for this big difference in the results?
- Why do you not use common templates of different sequence identity (high, medium, low) for all three methods (Modeller, SWISS-MODEL, I-TASSER)? How will you compare the methods otherwise?
- Did you compare 2phm to 1pah? They should look identical if the sequence identity is 95%.
- isn't that kind of our job in this Task? I mean to find out if they look identical with a high identity? --Hollizeck 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- Figure 3: Is the blue structure actually 1pah? It looks different from figure 1 and the thread seems rather unusual.
- SWISS-MODEL finds of course 1J8U:A since the sequence identity is 100%
- what is your point?
- There are still plenty of spelling errors.
- In the above 80% dataset we find again our structure from above. Would you write this in a paper?
- i would not, but his is not a paper but a wiki where I can use links and references to make it more dynamic--Hollizeck 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- You might make your plots more uniform, e.g. by using the same background color.
- good idea --Hollizeck 21:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)